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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Sun, Nov 27th, 2011 @ 21:57 ( . )

I recently got a Commodore 128, along with a bunch of disks, and I noticed that I have a couple originals that you do not appear to have archived. I would love to get them archived, but unfortunately, my computer doesn't have a parallel port! What should I do?

By the way, the disks I have are:

Overlord (Virgin/Mastertronic, NTSC)

Commodore 128 Demo Disk (Commodore, NTSC) (You might not be interested in C128 software, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.)

I'd appreciate any help you could give me to get these preserved! Thanks.


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Author:hyper active (registered user: 296 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 01:20 ( . )

I could offer to archive overlord with nibtools using the parallel port on my drive if we could get in contact and you could post them to me in the mail, I live in Melbourne Australia.
Unfortunately, you need a parallel port on your drive if you want to archive with nibtools, sorry, but there's no way around it.


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 14:12 ( . )

That might not be necessary, actually. I found on Amazon that you can actually buy Parallel Ports for PC. Hopefully, I can get one, get a cable, and do this myself after all!

Still, thanks for the offer, hyper active. :)


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Author:Pete Rittwage (registered user: 558 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 14:24 ( . )

Hi Arjak,

PCI parallel ports won't generally work with OpenCBM, etc. as they don't pass IRQ.

You have to add a parallel port to your 1541, not your PC. The PC side can be done with a ZoomFloppy (USB).

So you need a ZoomFloppy and parallel addon for 1541. If you have a 1571, you don't need any parallel at all, since it can use fast serial (SRQ) now.


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 16:05 ( . )

Oh, well, my PC has plenty of USB ports, and I just so happen to be using a 1571! So, all I need to do is get a ZoomFloppy cable, and the PC and 1571 will plug together, right?


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Author:Pete Rittwage (registered user: 558 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 21:49 ( . )

Correct- parallel port on the drive and PC is not necessary with ZoomFloppy and 1571. All you need is Zoom and a regular CBM serial cable.


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Author:hyper active (registered user: 296 posts )
Date: Mon, Nov 28th, 2011 @ 22:58 ( . )

Can this be done with a c128d with in built 1571 drive?


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Author:Pete Rittwage (registered user: 558 posts )
Date: Tue, Nov 29th, 2011 @ 08:32 ( . )

I don't think so. You'd have to design a circuit to disconnect the some of the drive lines from the 128 portion of the system. I doubt any pokes can do that (they've never worked for me).


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Author:Nate (guest: search)
Date: Mon, Dec 05th, 2011 @ 10:59 ( . )

On 11/28/2011 @ 21:49, Pete Rittwage wrote :
Correct- parallel port on the drive and PC is not necessary with ZoomFloppy and 1571. All you need is Zoom and a regular CBM serial cable.
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It sounds like you figured it out, but just to clear up what Pete says:

To use nibtools with a 1541, you need to add a parallel port to the drive itself. This allows transferring out bits as the drive head reads them.

To use the old X-style cables, you need a printer port (LPT) on your PC's motherboard. This is because it is fast enough to read the bits streaming back. However, add-on PCI printer cards are not fast enough and will miss data.

Nowadays, USB is plenty fast and you no longer need a printer port on the PC if you get a ZoomFloppy.

The ZF has the added advantage with the 1571 of using the drive's special fast serial mode, which means you don't even need a parallel port in the drive. The X-cables can't use this mode.

So that is the best combo if you want simple and easy imaging -- ZoomFloppy + 1571.


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Author:J Achernar (registered user: 36 posts )
Date: Thu, Dec 01st, 2011 @ 20:06 ( . )

Pete,

So Nibread running with Zoomfloppy currently supports fast serial? That is good news. I think it is now time for me to upgrade from my XAP1541. I have held off on the parallel mod to my 1571 due to the risk of destroying the drive when pulling and reinserting chips.


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Author:Pete Rittwage (registered user: 558 posts )
Date: Thu, Dec 01st, 2011 @ 20:24 ( . )

Yes, it works fine. Just a ZF+1571 is supported. It still has some timeout issues that are being worked on, but they are rare.


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Fri, Dec 02nd, 2011 @ 18:36 ( . )

I've ordered a ZoomFloppy. When it arrives, I'll start transferring the data on my disks.


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Mon, Dec 12th, 2011 @ 23:46 ( . )

My ZoomFloppy has arrived. I've installed the drivers, tested and gotten a signal from my drive, but when I started up nibread as so:

nibread overlord.nib

I get the following error:

Failed port transfer test. Check cabling.
Floppy drive initialization failed

What should I do? It seems to be searching for a parallel port connection, even though I'm hooked up through USB.


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Tue, Dec 13th, 2011 @ 00:12 ( . )

Never mind, I figured it out! I had to use the "-s" option!

I now have two games to send in: Overlord (American version of Supremacy), and Risk. How should I send them in?


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Author:Pete Rittwage (registered user: 558 posts )
Date: Tue, Dec 13th, 2011 @ 00:44 ( . )

You can email me at peter@c64preservation.com...


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Tue, Dec 13th, 2011 @ 12:27 ( . )

E-mail sent!


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Thu, Mar 29th, 2012 @ 17:01 ( . )

I just bought some brand new, still shrink-wrapped C64 games off eBay. Some of these games do NOT have verified copies in the database! I'll archive them first thing when they start arriving.

*Crosses fingers and hopes the disks still work!*


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Author:Arjak (registered user: 9 posts )
Date: Fri, Mar 30th, 2012 @ 18:36 ( . )

Peter,

I've emailed you copies of:

-Rick Dangerous (NTSC)
-Batman: The Caped Crusader (NTSC)

I've still got more games on the way, so stay tuned!


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